Two Knowledges of the Truth


Dhamma Talks by Mogok Sayadaw; 21st June 1962

[Sayadaw explained the 2 knowledges of the truth in the practice; i.e. anubodha ñāṇa and pativeda ñāṇa. The differences between them are; with the help of a teacher know how to practice, seeing anicca and knowing dukkha is anuhodha ñāṇa or vipassanā ñāṇa (not including of penetration).

The other is penetration of dukkha and realization of Nibbāna or the path knowledge (knowing with penetration). These are 2 knowledges of knowing the truth. Without the anubodha ñāṇa, and pativeda ñāṇa will not arise. The other differences between them are far away from kilesa and abandoning of kilesa.

Another point is kilesa not drying out yet and so the path knowledge not arises. Insight knowledges are drying out the kilesas and path knowledge totally burns them off. At the stage of anubodha ñāṇa is seeing the impermanence of any one of the khandhas. At the time of pativeda ñāṇa arises and you can make the decision that whatever arises is the real dukkha and then path knowledge arises.]

There are 2 knowledges of knowing the truth; anubodha ñāṇa and pativeda ñāṇa. Impermanence was the truth of dukkha, which was taught by teachers. Taking a system of practice from a teacher, with contemplation and knowing by oneself is anubodha ñāṇa.

This is not yet penetrative knowing. This is knowing by following the knowledge of the Buddha and teachers. In the whole body here and there are impermanents. Dukkha not ceases that Nibbāna not yet arises. These are only insight knowledges. It is not yet the penetrative knowledge by oneself and dukkha not ceases. Only by contemplating a lot will have the penetrative knowledge. It becomes mature and know it as real dukkha sacca.

And then it supports pativeda ñāṇa. So, these are vipassanā ñāṇa and magga ñāṇa. Knowing with what the teacher has and with penetration by oneself. Nibbāna can’t be known by what the teacher has said to you. The differences between them are far away from the kilesas and its disappearance.

Knowing thoroughly with the Path Knowledge can dispel kilesas and it will never come back again. You can get Nibbāna only by making kilesas far away. Why I can’t get Nibbāna yet? Because kilesas not dry out yet. After kilesas dry out, and burn with the path knowledge and then it disappears. This was a simile given by the Buddha.

Let’s look for the truth in the khandha. From the head down to the feet, you will find the different changing nature in the khandha. Select one of them for the contemplation. If you prefer feeling and contemplate feeling, prefer mind and mind, prefer form and form, etc.

In the khandha always exist with impermanent dukkha sacca. And it will show you that all. Only with the penetration of knowledge the matter will finish. Khandha is only dukkha sacca and should never doubt about that. This was coming from the first discourse of the Buddha. At first knowing as feeling, mind, etc. After that not as feeling and mind but knowing as real dukkha sacca.

The khandha is truth of dukkha. So, only truth of dukkha arises. Knowing the mind, feeling as impermanence with anubodha ñāṇa. When the pativeda ñāṇa arises, it’s not khandha but can decide as real suffering. Therefore, outside the Buddha Sāsāna, Sacca Dhamma disappeared and couldn’t become Buddha and arahants.

So don’t condemn on your perfection (pāramīs). Instead just work hard to develop these two ñāṇa (anubodha and pativeda ñāṇas).


cited from https://oba.org.tw/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4192&p=35959#p35959 (posted on 2019-02-16)


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