Dhamma Talks by Mogok Sayadaw; 8th December 1961
Analyze the 20 kinds of identity view (sakkāya diṭṭhi) and only have the views of eternalism and annihilationism (sassata and uccheda diṭṭhi). If you teach someone who has sassata diṭṭhi on the cessation of life and he is stepping back from you (dislike with it) For someone has uccheda diṭṭhi is overreaching it.
They all were not in the middle way what the Buddha wanted to be. With teaching as the ending of name and form (mind and body) is Nibbāna and the eternalists don’t like it. There is no feeling so what the use of it? He is taking enjoyments in life.
Therefore step back and saying as I’ll stay in life. With the enjoyment in life even they become sotāpanna, prefer to be continued and enjoyed the life of gradual elevated heavenly beings. As an example, the female devotee Visākhā. The saying of if I free from the painful rebirth is good enough.
Most of these type of people are eternalists. Their words are describing the types of wrong view in their heart. By making the prayers such as; may I enjoy the life of human and heavenly being for many times, and they can’t get Nibbāna.
Because the view of eternalism prevent the realization. They are difficult to realize Nibbāna. People with attachement to life don’t like listening to Nibbāna dhamma and no interest in it. They don’t want to pay attention to it. Majority of people have this wrong view. Except the dukkha of painful existences and they prefer any of the khandha.
So, wrong views prevent Nibbāna is becoming clear. They don’t want to try for Path and Frution Knowledges, because they are happy to be in life. The reason behind is not understanding and knowing dukkha sacca. It’s the same as for Nibbāna. View of eternalism is latent in their hearts. Making long prayers at the pagodas and Buddha images are these kinds of people. If they have the chance to get Nibbāna now and will not take it (They have strong bhava taṇhā).
If talking about the cutting off life, and have no interest in it. They don’t appreciate bhava nirodho nibbānaṁ – Cessation of life is Nibbāna. With this wrong view can’t listen and practice dhamma.
There were many Buddhas had arisen in the world, and at least we had met one Buddha. But we had not been freed from the existence of dukkha was having this wrong view. Every Buddha taught the ending of life (This point is very important for all Buddhists.
Therefore we should not let kilesa deceive us. Especially by wrong view disguises as love and compassion. Māra – the Evil One is everywhere). If you ask these people to do dāna and will do it in a grand way. They want to enjoy the fortune of life. If you ask them to practice for Nibbāna and will step back. Except Nibbāna, they are ordering by wrong view and doing a lot of prayers without knowing it.
Women have more sassata diṭṭhi than men, because they have greed characters. Wrong view and greed are together. With a lot of concerning for others have sassata diṭṭhi, because they enjoy life. Whatever kind of life you get only fuels and fire. So they take enjoyment in dukkha.
Now, I’ll talk about the view of annihilation. A person with this view prefer cutting off life. He is overreaching. Nothing happen again is good for him. Dukkha ceases and sukha exists is Nibbāna. Therefore the annihilationists (uccheda person) overreach the nature of Nibbāna.
He knows that because of name and form there are a lot of dukkha. He prefers to be without name and form but not prefers Nibbāna. With this wrong view in the heart and practice can’t realize Nibbāna. To follow the middle way between these 2 wrong views is not easy and difficult. Strong disgust on life and prefer annihilation.
The reason of can’t see Nibbāna is covering up by name and form. Can’t overcome dukkha sacca in section ② can’t see Nibbāna in section ② (i.e. viññāṇaṁ, nāma-rūpaṁ, salāyatana, phassa and vedana or the 5 khandhas). He can’t accept the existence of Nibbāna and prefer without khandha.
Sometime in the state of anger and thinking as without this body is better and uccheda view arises. To Nibbāna have to go the middle of the 2 existences. You had never been in the middle way and never went straight before. In the whole saṁsarā was wandering with these 2 extremes, and mostly with the view of eternalism.
We are taking happiness and joys in eternalism, and disappointment with annihilation. The day before I had explained about the paths of smile and grimace are these 2 extremes. With everything going well is sassata diṭṭhi and not going well is uccheda diṭṭhi. If I die everything will be solved. (This is the view of uccheda). No, you don’t.
If you still have kilesa continued to have dukkha sacca. Becoming miserable and killing themselves are annihilationists. What the Buddha taught was if you wanted to go in the middle way and could go only with the wisdom eye. And also it can see the way.
Therefore I have to give you the wisdom eye (paññā cakkhu). You have to know the existence of this 5 khandhs. And have to practice to become disenchantment with it and not wanting of it. With these you are in the middle way. Starting to see impermanence is in the middle way.
First have to practice to see the more clear one (i.e. anicca). Later to see its disenchantment. After that you are not wanting its dukkha sacca. If you can practice and have these 3 knowledges and become a person in the middle way.
So, everyday I am teaching you are about the middle way. Dāna and sīla are running towards eternalism and samatha jhāna towards annihilationism (For this point see the Brahmajāla Sutta of Dīgha Nikāya). Therefore samatha and vipassanā have to go together. With samatha only is going towards uccheda diṭṭhi.
Every worldling is following with the pulling. It’s like a blindman follows behind a walking stick. Do you still have any of your own decision of movement? After vipassanā practice and doing dāna, sīla and samatha will give the result to Nibbāna. Seeing the arising phenomenon is dukkha sacca and its passing way is dukkha sacca and then do the danā and sīla.
Faith and wisdom are including with them and leading to Nibbāna. Wisdom eye means seeing anicca. Not seeing anicca is leaning towards one of the extreme of eternalism and annihilationism. By meeting a teacher of eternalism will lean towards eternalism. By meeting a teacher of annihilationism will lean towards annihilationism. These are like following behind a walking stick.
cited from https://oba.org.tw/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=4091&p=35853#p35853 (posted on 2019-01-18)
- Content of Part 7 on "Dhamma Talks by Mogok Sayadaw"
- Content of "Dhamma Talks by Mogok Sayadaw"
- Content of Publications of Ven. Uttamo
This is only an experimental WWW. It's always under construction (proofreading, revising)!
According to the translator— Ven. Uttamo's words, this is strictly for free distribution only, as a gift of Dhamma—Dhamma Dāna. You may re-format, reprint, translate, and redistribute this work in any medium.